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7.7Received National Body Comments and Liaison matters


The NB Comments and Liaison documents for the meeting that require a response are as shown below.

No.

From

Title

Response

m16765

IFPI

Statement on MPEG-4 ALS Profile

Chair

7.8Plenary Discussion

7.8.1Audio Reference Code and MPEG SVN Server

7.8.2“Round-Trip Coding” and audio conformance and reference software

7.9Record of AhG meetings

7.10AhG Meeting on SAOC and USAC -- Sunday 1000-1800

7.10.1Spatial Audio Object Coding


Oliver Hellmuth, FhG, presented

m16677

Status and progress overview of SAOC workplan items

Oliver Hellmuth, Juergen Herre, Andreas Hoelzer, Werner Oomen, Heiko Purnhagen, Leonid Terentiev

This overview indicated the topics that will be covered in separate contributions and ones that require more development, and so are not covered in any contribution to this meeting.

One topic is presented in this contribution, which is a method for dynamic update of objects (in a teleconferencing application, this would be the number of talkers or locations in a conference call). The conclusion is that the current technology is sufficient to accommodate this, so no action is needed.

Leonid Terentiev, FhG, presented

m16651

Report on corrections for the MPEG SAOC FCD text

Jonas Engdegård, Heiko Purnhagen, Leonid Terentiev, Cornelia Falch, Andreas Hölzer, Oliver Hellmuth, Johannes Hilpert, Jeroen Koppens

The contribution lists a number of editorial corrections to the FCD text. It is the recommendation of the AhG to incorporate these changes into the FCD text.

Jeongil Seo, ETRI, presented



m16602

Comments on the Usage of the Enhanced Karaoke/Solo Mode

Jeongil Seo, Henney Oh, Kevin SeungChul Ham

The contribution reviewed the Music 2.0 product, which launched in 2007 in Korea. This has between 4 and 8 tracks which are in stereo so that aspects of spaciousness. ETRI expresses concern that the current limitations in EKS make it insufficient to support the Music 2.0 application.

Jeongil Seo, ETRI, presented



m16603

Technical Consideration on Combination of Classic and EKS Modes

Jeongil Seo, Kyeongok Kang

The contribution presents a possible technical solution to address the concerns raised in the previous contribution. It suggests that “classic” SAOC mix could be uses as a BGO in the EKS mix. It also gives preliminary evaluation of complexity of the proposed scheme.

Leonid Terentiev, FhG, presented



m16655

Clarifications and enhancement of the EKS processing mode

Cornelia Falch, Leonid Terentiev, Oliver Hellmuth

The contribution

  • clarification of IOC parameters

  • gives a technical solution for combing EKS and “classic” SAOC processing

  • proposes a means to signal a flexible transition between prediction and energy mode

For combining EKS and classic SAOC, it proposes to permit an SOAC bitstream to have

  • a number of “regular” objects

  • a smaller number of “enhanced” objects

The unified EKS/SAOC encoding would first apply EKS processing on the “enhanced” objects to produce a Foreground (stereo) signal and (typically) a residual signal plus a Background (stereo) signal. The latter is processed as a downmix for “regular” SAOC processing, in which any number of “regular” SOAC objects can be manipulated. The Chair suggested that a figure giving a very specific and tutorial example of EKS/SAOC processing should be in the specification.

It appears that the concerns of ETRI and LG are addressed by this contribution, but there will be further discussion and the issue will be re-visited mid-week.

Finally, the contribution proposes a means to signal a flexible transition between prediction and energy mode for use in upmixing, which can be advantageously used with residual coding. The AhG recommends incorporating this into the FCD text.

Jeongil Seo, ETRI, presented



m16604

Consideration on the MPS Payload within SAOC for MBO

Jeongil Seo

The contribution proposes a container mechanism for carrying the MPEG Surround Multi-channel Background Object in the SAOC bitstream. The container is identical what is currently used for the SAOC residual signal. The presenter noted that the proposal in this contribution is identical to what is proposed in m16653 (the next presentation).

Leonid Terentiev, FhG, asked why an explicit bsMPOFlag bit is required since the presence of the container seems to be sufficient to signal that MBO is present. Heiko Purnhagen, Dolby, noted that is it not necessary to indicate the position of the BMP in the bitstream, as it is assumed to be that last stereo element.

Leonid Terentiev, FhG, presented

m16653

MBO embedment in SAOC payload

Heiko Purnhagen, Leonid Terentiev, Oliver Hellmuth

The contribution proposes a container mechanism for carrying the MPEG Surround Multi-channel Background Object in the SAOC bitstream that is identical to what is proposed in the previous contribution. In addition, it proposed to clarify a number of parameters associated with MPEG Surround parameters. The AhG recommends incorporating this into the FCD text.

Leonid Terentiev, FhG, presented



m16654

Clarifications regarding the MPS bitstream generation for the SAOC transcoding mode

Leonid Terentiev, Oliver Hellmuth

The contribution proposes clarifications to the FCD text associated with transcoding of SAOC parameters for MPEG Surround decoding. The Chair suggested that Table 1 which indicates how to map parameters from SAOC to MPS be re-arranged to suggest a signal flow something like this

SAOC parameter

Maps to MPS parameter

Default MPS value

(if no SAOC parameter)



Described in MPS Specification

xxx

xxx




Table 5




yyy

0

Table 5

The AhG recommends incorporating this into the FCD text.

Heiko Purnhagen, Dolby, presented



m16656

Technical provisions for low-delay SAOC multi-channel rendering

Jonas Engdegård, Heiko Purnhagen, Johannes Hilpert, María Luis Valero, Markus Schnell, Oliver Hellmuth, Leonid Terentiev, Andreas Hölzer

The contribution is a progress report on implementing a low-delay SOAC/MPEG Surround system. It shows subjective test results that indicate that the low-delay implementation has quality comparable to that of the regular system. The low-delay filterbank used in MPEG Surround was exactly the one that is used in low-delay SAOC. The presenter anticipates that the filterbank structure is stable, but other aspects of the decoder may still need to be adapted to get the desired level of performance. It is anticipated that the low-delay flavour of MPEG Surround will be specified as a clause in the SAOC specification.

As to next steps, it is suggested that a workplan be drafted that coordinates subjective tests of system performance.



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